tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3064939917330556989.post1738569769980353494..comments2024-02-21T00:26:08.263-08:00Comments on Kuranda Seyit: De-radicalising Muslim YouthKuranda Seyithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10294295780883018002noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3064939917330556989.post-89144986922087270602018-11-19T20:35:17.022-08:002018-11-19T20:35:17.022-08:00The other problem is and this comes I believe Ibn ...The other problem is and this comes I believe Ibn Tamilya (sp) in that other Muslims are not immune to these proscriptions. Prior to Tamiya anyone that converted to Islam was a "brother" and therefore deserving of good treatment and not subject to those things reserved for non Muslims in the more direct statements in the Koran. Tamilya lived under the time when the Mongols invaded Arabia. The Khan in charge of the Middle East decided to convert to Islam in order to be a proper religious ruler. Tamiya hated the Khan and I guess claimed the conversion was fake news. He came up with the idea that the Khan and thus anyone that supported him were supporting an apostate and directed Muslims it was OK to declare holy war on other Muslims if they supported an apostate because if they were in fact good Muslims then God would grant them paradise. This is based on several books on the War on Terror where people tried to explain where Osama Bin Laden's ideology came from. You probably understand this better than I.<br /><br />So I think something else is at play. I think these Islamic terrorists are the worst kind of evil. They are evil who think that their evil is righteous because God told them so. People that blindly follow the letter of the Word without ever trying to understand what it all really means. People for whom prayer is not introspection to bring one closer to God but a cudgel to be seen as God's representative on earth. Christianity has televangelists who are not really better. These people will see you as a Muslim leader stating that they are horrible or agreeing that Islamic Terrorism is a real problem for every other Muslim as an apostate and well see what Tamiya said about apostates right!<br /><br />I feel for you. I understand it sucks and for you a guy trying to follow his religion, going to mosque, having bake sales and bringing his kids up right so they do well in life this is unfair that these assholes do this to you and you don't want to be the target of backlash.<br /><br />But sir, respectfully, I think even other Muslims see through your demand that the Australian PM apologize as hyperbole and let's face it non Muslims just get pissed. Your strategy won't make is better for Muslims who are not evil radical terrorists. You have got to have faith and you have to stand up and denounce this terrorism as having no place in Islam. You don't have to apologize for it, white guilt is silly and so would Islamic guilt be equally so. But just as every white southern baptist preacher who wants to do right has to denounce the Klan when racists pop up so to do you have to denounce radical Islamists as not following God's way. You should not be demanding an apology of the PM nor should you apologize to him. Instead you need to stand up and agree with him that radical Islamists have no place in your religion.<br /><br />In the end if you don't want to live under the harsh brutal regimes of ISIS yourself even as a Muslim, if you don't stand up and denounce them or if you are seen as apologists for them then you will end up being ruled by them. This is because they are more than willing to kill you as an apostate if you don't comply.<br /><br />You really need to think where your religion is going to head if these types end up running it!<br /><br />I am not trying to offend you sir but just pointing out some hard truths that I think you should consider. I could of course be wrong on certain points but overall I am not sure that I have the premise of what is going on wrong.<br /><br />Good Luck to you!<br />Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3064939917330556989.post-9509611632968519182018-11-19T20:34:23.176-08:002018-11-19T20:34:23.176-08:00I would suggest to you that as an American myself ...I would suggest to you that as an American myself you may have a similar problem that Christianity especially in the Southern United States had with the KKK in the 1930's. Many racists took quotes out of the bible and tried to use this to justify considering blacks a second class citizen at best and at worst deserving of slavery.<br /><br />But the problem as I see it for you Muslims is you don't just have the text of the Prophet Mohammed as taken down on Golden plates or forgive me whatever the religion states. You have other traditions such as the Hadith (I think this is what it is but you know what I mean) where other people over time have essentially written stuff in the margins of the Koran and this has been added to the sacred text as however you handle it. As such there are a lot of 7th and medieval notions from the people that lived there which talk about Jews and Christians being the enemy, putting people to the sword and being able to enslave people who are Kadith (not sure of the word forgive me). At least we Christians with the Bible had to find a way to twist the Word in order to subvert it to preaching evil.<br /><br />Mind you I am not saying this makes Islam a bad religion, I am just merely pointing out why stopping people from using your religious texts to enslave, torture and kill people is more difficult for you because you don't have to invent sophistry about metaphors but just point to text may be taken out of context that says do this.<br /><br />Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3064939917330556989.post-3996747109232926322018-11-19T20:33:15.524-08:002018-11-19T20:33:15.524-08:00I can understand that the youth in places in the m...I can understand that the youth in places in the middle east feel disenfranchised but quite honestly it takes two to tango. The British facilitated many of the Islamic countries in the middle east after World War II but it was the people their that allowed themselves to fall to corrupt theocratic regimes in the middle east as well as former fascist Bathist party. So it is not just the colonial powers that entirely at fault. The problem becomes in how you handle things.<br /><br />I just saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He72H1Eo60w by a You Tuber Bearing where you lambaste the Australian PM for condemning an attack as Islamic Terror where a man crashed into people,got out of his car and started cutting people with a knife yelling Ahura Akbar (spelling?).<br /><br />Now in a sense I can try and see your perspective. IF you and a majority of Muslims that happen to live in Australia don't have anything to do with this stuff and people get riled up and blame Islam you feel that you may be unfairly targeted and therefore you wish to protect yourself.<br /><br />(cont)Individualisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11005025873042230314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3064939917330556989.post-70612196886149420682015-07-12T23:41:25.363-07:002015-07-12T23:41:25.363-07:00Kuranda All this crap!!! that you have written and...Kuranda All this crap!!! that you have written and I couldn't be bothered to read to the end of all yours excuses for Muslims and crying victim as usual,The Muslims Brotherhood is a terror organization and blaming west for all this??? crap!! crap !! go and find somebody else to tel this bull to, to yours Muslims they would listen, anything against us they will, you all came to us!! we didn't invade you, our soldiers went to help ME Muslims to secure some peace among yourself as for as long there is Islam the Muslims killing each other for one reason or the other,and than they turn around blame the western alliance for all the problems you made for you self there no Palestinian Problem! it's anther Muslim invention, all you all are told in Mosques since 700 is to conker us and make us Muslims is in the Quran!! so stop this bulshit!! what kind of idiots you think we are, blaming us for yours trebles lol nothing new, yes everybody's fault but not yours yep.And now the ISIS you own fanatics is destroying you so do you expect us again to die for you so you all can turn around and blame us that we invaded yours country, we came to help you!! cose you cant help yourself because you all are cowards hiding behind women and children, I hope that we will never go and do such stupid think like helping you ever again because you are all ungrateful bastards!!Just feel sorry for the children.mirawaynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17825193428061764563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3064939917330556989.post-33366040068541612022015-05-19T01:21:19.617-07:002015-05-19T01:21:19.617-07:00Oh boo hoo, the poor Muslims.. do you see Chinese ...Oh boo hoo, the poor Muslims.. do you see Chinese or Indian or Bangladesh youths who come from extreme poverty cutting peoples heads off or threating to? No, they work hard, study hard, and rise to the top. So what do you have to say in response to that?<br /><br />Stop making stupid excuses for these barbaric prodigies of Islam. <br /><br />There is nothing you can say to legitimise evil, you're just making yourself look ignorant. <br /><br />If they're not happy in Australia, then go Syria, or Lebanon, or Iran. I'm sure they will happy over there, or will they?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com